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#42 Bill Clinton Legacy

#42 Bill Clinton's Legacy   21 members have voted

  1. 1. Which of the following Clinton decisions/events are positives for his legacy?

    • Signed NAFTA, which had begun with GHW Bush, even though more Republicans than Democrats supported it.
    • Attempted to pass universal healthcare, which he placed under the leadership of Hillary Clinton, but Congress blocked the plan.
    • Presided during the first take over of the US House by Republicans (led by Newt Gingrich) since in 40 years.
    • Selected Al Gore as his VP
    • Signed welfare reform, which aimed to encourage poor families to work rather than seek welfare.
    • The 2nd president to get impeached. Like Andrew Johnson, he was not convicted.
    • Signed the Omnibus Act, which cut taxes for small businesses and all Americans, except for the wealthiest, who had their tax raised
    • Signed the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
    • Repealed Glass-Steagall, an FDR era, which had been slowly torn apart by Clinton's predecessors. Some say this repeal somewhat contributed to the Great Recession.
    • Intervened in the Balkan War
    • While he continued intervention in the Somali Civil War, he opted not to get involved in preventing the nearby Rwandan genocide
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    • Worked to curb the power of post-Soviet Russia by lobbying to get Eastern European countries into NATO
    • Like Reagan, made a strong effort to work with the opposition; although, Republicans were often threatening to shut down the government.
    • Appointed more district court judges than any other president
    • In contrast to other presidents of his era, he presided during a noticeable budget surplus.
    • He presided during arguably the largest economic boom of the 20th century.
    • Presided during the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which he was unable to prevent
    • His cabinet showed mixed ability -- Janet Reno, Madelaine Albright, Robert Rubin, etc
    • Lazy on environmental regulations
    • None of the above
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  2. 2. part 2 of the above

    • Presided during the outbreak of the major phase of globalization, which for better or worse has changed the world forever.
    • Granted "normal" trade relations with China in an attempt to slowly democratize them
    • Made major efforts to find peace with Israel and Palestine, but failed.
    • Normalized relations with former enemy Vietnam
    • Appointed Ruth Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer to the Supreme Court
    • Although, he was unable to eliminate the the national debt, he was able to greatly decrease the annual increase to 1.8%
    • Unemployment fell from 7.3% to 3.9%
    • Signed Don't Ask Don't Tell, a law that was mostly a fence-sitter on the gays in the military conundrum.
    • Ordered strategic bombing of terrorist in Afghanistan, Sudan and East Africa
    • Ordered airstrikes on Iraq
    • Signed the Brady Bill, which imposed a waiting period on the purchase of fire arms
    • Protected workers by signing a law requiring large employers to allow unpaid leave for pregnancies and serious medical conditions.
    • Signed a law which banned assault weapons while expanding the death penalty
    • Presided during a period that saw an increased prison population
    • He and Al Gore used federal funding to push the use of internet technology.
    • Presided during two government shut downs led by Newt Gingrich; however, most believe Clinton came out as more popular in these show downs
    • Had an extremely high approval rating as he exited office, and more or less maintained it.
    • Had arguably the most powerful first lady to live in the White House, Hillary Clinton, who acted as a close adviser, which in a way set a precedence for Trump's use of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner in his administration.
    • His marital affairs wrecked his credibility
    • None of the above
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  3. 3. In your opinion, your view of Clinton's presidency is...


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The last one should say "integrity" instead of "credibility". 

I nearly put mixed for Clinton. I think he was great economic president, but he was such a fence-sitter on social issues. He also seemed like a fence-sitter on foreign affairs. The more the years pass the less of a spine Clinton appears to have; yet, people flourished during his presidency as a whole, so that might be more important. 

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I absolutely hate Bill, TBH. A sad, disgusting man who has neither an ideology, or, failing that, morals. He tried one progressive thing, health care reform, let his wife take the blame when it failed, then bowed to the Republicans when they took over Congress.

I wish Hillary had dumped him in the 70s and gone her own way, we'd be filling out "#42 Hillary Rodham legacy," and pilight would give out an obscure fun fact about her pertaining to some random guy named Bill she dated briefly, who ran for governor of Arkansas once but was dogged by sex scandals and never got elected.

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Clinton was the first president to be married to a lawyer.  He was also the first to be forced to give a legal deposition while in office.

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I'm curious as the two parties voter base continues to shift( Trump dominated West Virginia- a state Clinton won-, and upper middle class suburbs slowly turning Dem) that Clinton's popularity might begin to wain ; since the voters of 1992 are completely different than one of today. Yet ironically, he helped pave way for the modern makeup of the two parties by having the Democratic Party began accepting free trade. And almost 8 years later the Democratic party will have a nominee that will end up pursue a free trade deal that is far larger than NAFTA( TPP).

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I put Bill as mixed. I'm not nearly as big of a fan of him vs Hillary. He definitely showed some economic strength and seemed ready to compromise in order to get bills passed, but he did a fantastic job in making sure that his positives would be weighed against sexual assault allegations, which is a non-starter for me. I still think if Hillary were only out for political expediency, then she would have divorced him before her senate run, and would have come out stronger as a result.

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@michaelsdiamonds, while I personally love Hillary over Bill, I doubt it would have done Clinton any good to divorce her husband. You have to remember that during the 1992 election, many conservatives mocked Bill because Hillary made more money than him( he was a governor, and she was an associate at the Rose Law Firm). I could go on and explain in my own words why Hillary shouldn't have left Bill because the culture of the 90's was too conservative, but I'll let this piece from the Times during the 1992 general election describe Mrs.Clinton.  http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/24/us/1992-campaign-political-memo-backlash-for-hillary-clinton-puts-negative-image.html

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11 hours ago, vcczar said:

The last one should say "integrity" instead of "credibility". 

I nearly put mixed for Clinton. I think he was great economic president, but he was such a fence-sitter on social issues. He also seemed like a fence-sitter on foreign affairs. The more the years pass the less of a spine Clinton appears to have; yet, people flourished during his presidency as a whole, so that might be more important. 

Shockingly, the president and the feds staying out of people's business is good for the economy.

The #1 thing I liked about Clinton was his willingness to do nothing and let problems sort themselves out.  Leadership isn't just defined by what you do, it also reflects in what you don't do.

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8 hours ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

@michaelsdiamonds, while I personally love Hillary over Bill, I doubt it would have done Clinton any good to divorce her husband. You have to remember that during the 1992 election, many conservatives mocked Bill because Hillary made more money than him( he was a governor, and she was an associate at the Rose Law Firm). I could go on and explain in my own words why Hillary shouldn't have left Bill because the culture of the 90's was too conservative, but I'll let this piece from the Times during the 1992 general election describe Mrs.Clinton.  http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/24/us/1992-campaign-political-memo-backlash-for-hillary-clinton-puts-negative-image.html

You're right. It probably would have been more beneficial in the early 2000s or her 2008 run. It's hard to keep in mind how much of a wave she made with her comments on having her career!

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