President Garrett Walker

Her Highness, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, Empress of the United States 2005-2025

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I am going to attempt to run as Hillary Clinton in the 2000 election, take down Al Gore, and beat Dubya or McCain or whoever in the general. Then I will try to win re-election in 2004. Then I will assume she had the 22nd Amendment abolished or something and have her run in 2008. And 2012. And 2016. And 2020. Let's see if I can make her a 6-term President.

Summary of progress so far (read below for details):

2000: Hillary lost to Al Gore in the primaries, became George W. Bush's running mate, then subsequently lost the election to Al Gore and Jesse Jackson by 18 percentage points.

2004: Hillary took down President Gore in the primaries, chose Howard Dean as her VP, and crushed Lincoln Chafee and Bill Frist by 11 points.

2008: Hillary was not challenged in the primaries; Howard Dean was not going to run for re-election as he did not like being VP, so Clinton chose Senator Barack Obama as her running mate. A contested convention on the Republican side spat out a Jeb Bush/Charlie Crist ticket. President Clinton defeated them narrowly and won re-election by 3.2%

2012: Vice President Obama was nominated, chose President Hillary Clinton as his running mate, beat Republican nominee Gov. Bobby Jindal (LOL) by an extremely narrow margin of 1.8%, then was assassinated 12 minutes into his Presidency. Nancy Pelosi took over for a bit while the Supreme Court sorted things out, and eventually they decided that Clinton could ascend to the Presidency for a third term, during which time she successfully pushed for a Constitutional Amendment to reform the government, including a provision to allow her to run for as many terms as she'd like by changing a sentence or two in the 22nd Amendment. She also chose San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro as her VP, which was seen as odd at first but was later viewed as a good choice.

2016: Clinton initially faltered during the early primaries and on Super Tuesday, but regained ground and locked up the nomination without too much of a problem. She kept Julian Castro as her VP pick, then went on to beat Marco Rubio and his running mate, Gov. Mary Fallin, in the general election by a margin of 3%.

2020: Clinton/Castro go against Governor Greg Abbott and writer David French. They beat them by 7 percentage points.

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Not looking great in the 2000 Dem primaries.

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1 hour ago, Bruce Fischer said:

Not looking great in the 2000 Dem primaries.

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Properly speaking, if someone is both a Queen and an Empress, the titles refer to different polities. Victoria was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and of the British Dominions Beyond the Seas but was, as a separate title, Empress of India (specifically), as well as Duchess of Normandy (insofar as the Channel Islands were concerned), Lady of Mann, Duchess of Lancaster, Defender of the Faith, and Grand Mistress of several knightly orders. Likewise, Maria Theresa was Holy Roman Empress jus luxoris (by being married to Holy Roman Emperor Stephen), Austrian Empress, separately, in her own right, and Queen of Bohemia, Hungary, and Croatia, as separate titles and demesnes, and a whole slew of other titles. One is not a Queen and Empress (or King and Emperor, for that matter) of the same nation or demesne at the same time. Feudal pedantry, free of charge. :P 

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

Properly speaking, if someone is both a Queen and an Empress, the titles refer to different polities. Victoria was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and of the British Dominions Beyond the Seas but was, as a separate title, Empress of India (specifically), as well as Duchess of Normandy (insofar as the Channel Islands were concerned), Lady of Mann, Duchess of Lancaster, Defender of the Faith, and Grand Mistress of several knightly orders. Likewise, Maria Theresa was Holy Roman Empress jus luxoris (by being married to Holy Roman Emperor Stephen), Austrian Empress, separately, in her own right, and Queen of Bohemia, Hungary, and Croatia, as separate titles and demesnes, and a whole slew of other titles. One is not a Queen and Empress (or King and Emperor, for that matter) of the same nation or demesne at the same time. Feudal pedantry, free of charge. :P 

FINE, BE PATINEDANTIC. :P

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Gore secured the nomination quite easily, though I did win Texas, Minnesota, and Illinois, and was favored to win Arkansas.

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General election:

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Gore looks like he's gonna take Florida by around 10 percentage points. I think I'll make Hillary his VP. Gore/Clinton 2000.

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I think I'll make Hillary his VP. Gore/Clinton 2000.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA JUST KIDDING, BUSH/CLINTON 2000, LET'S DO THIS BABY!

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Gore lost 6 points in a week, while Bush gained 5. You cross Hillary, you die lose elections. She'll use Bush (assuming they win) to get into the White House, then dispose of him when it's time to run in '04.

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Al Gore has chosen Reverend Jesse Jackson as his VP. It's like he said "who's the opposite of Joe Lieberman?" and then saw Jesse Jackson and decided to make him his VP pick.

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Not looking great for Bush/Clinton 2000...

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ELECTION NIGHT 2000

This is it, Gore/Jackson vs. Bush/Clinton.

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Welp, looks like Hillary torpedoed the Dubya campaign...

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Chalk up another loss for Hillary.  That would definitely damage her future.

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First Gore Term Events

November 2000: Election night ends quite early, Bush blames pivot to the center instead of appealing to conservatives for loss.

January 2001: President Gore and Vice President Jackson are inaugurated.

September 11, 2001: 9/11 happens as it actually did

September 2001: President Gore stresses that not all Muslims are evil, states that getting Bin Laden is "a top national priority."

February 2002: Bill to moderately cut taxes in the face of moderate Clinton-era surplus passes.

November 2002: Hillary Clinton, having beaten Eliot Engel in the primary, wins House election and becomes a Representative for NY-17. Republicans gain majorities in both houses of Congress; 53-47 in the Senate, 235-200 in the House.

Various points throughout term: Vice President Jesse Jackson says words, some white people are infuriated!

June 2003: Against public opinion, President Gore repeatedly refuses to invade Iraq or topple Saddam Hussein, even though some evidence suggests there may be WMDs.

July 2003: Governor George Bush declines to run in the 2004 election, citing his massive landslide loss to President Gore in 2000. Lincoln Chafee announces that he will seek the nomination, making switching to the metric system a cornerstone of his campaign.

November 2003: President Gore is mildly unpopular (approval at 42%) due to his perceived weakness on foreign policy.

December 1st, 2003: Representative Hillary Clinton announces she will challenge President Gore in the Democratic primaries. Now that she actually has some political experience, she has a much better chance against President Gore, despite her jumping ship to George Bush's campaign in 2000. In fact, that helps her with Democratic primary voters, as they see her as having pretty much single-handedly taken what should have been a close election and throwing it to Al Gore. She plays this off as her intention the entire time, being quoted as saying "while I didn't - and still don't - think Al Gore is a good President, he's better than Bush!"

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EDIT I have updated to 2.5.4 and am now using the official 2004 scenario, mostly because the update broke the old non-official 2004 scenario (which I liked better because there were more than just one non-Bush Republican). Oh well.

Democratic primaries are really close:

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The only Republican to announce is Lincoln Chafee, for some reason, which makes me chuckle #feelthechafe2004:

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Democrats have a narrow lead in the general:

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President Gore wins IA Caucus

President Gore has narrowly won the Iowa Caucus, winning 29 delegates to Rep. Clinton's 28.

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President Gore Loses Home State

While faring better than expected nationally, and having passed Rep. Clinton in recent polls, President Gore embarrassingly lost his home state by a narrow margin of 1% and 1 delegate.

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Rep. Clinton Wins Crucial Florida Primary

Rep. Hillary Clinton has beaten President Gore by an extremely narrow margin (0.8%) in the Florida primary and won all 201 of its delegates in an upset victory over Gore, who had been leading there until the day of the primary. While Clinton had been slipping in national polls, and probably would have lost the nomination without Florida, this new victory puts her firmly back in the running.

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This might come down to the very last delegate, LOL

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Clinton Narrowly Wins Democratic Primaries!

After a grueling, close primary battle with President Gore, Rep. Clinton will become the first woman to be nominated by a major party.

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Clinton, Chafee Nominated, General Election Begins

With President Al Gore out of the way, Rep. Clinton is now fully focused on the general election. She chose Howard Dean as her running mate. Lincoln Chafee was also nominated at the RNC a month later, choosing Bill Frist as his running mate. Clinton looks to be the favorite at this point in the election.

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HILLARY CLINTON ELECTED 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN A LANDSLIDE

In a stunning rebuke of the metric system, Rep. Hillary Clinton and Gov. Howard Dean have defeated Sens. Lincoln Chafee and Bill Frist in an eleven-point landslide. The Dakotas, Kansas, Montana, Indiana, West Virginia, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alaska were all within 5% of Clinton's grasp, while most other states (e.g. every state but ID, WY, NE, and UT) were within 10%.

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First Clinton Term Events

November 2004: Rep. Clinton elected in landslide, along with Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress (57-43 in the Senate, 245-190 in the House)

December 2004: In a show of bipartisanship, President Clinton nominates Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State; she is confirmed despite being a Republican

January 2005: Clinton and Dean inaugurated

February 2005: Clinton puts limited numbers of boots on the ground in Iraq, Afghanistan, launches limited strategic airstrikes against suspected Al Qaeda bases

March 2005: Clinton announces a push for what detractors call "Hillarycare 2.0." (basically Obamacare but with a public option)

September 2005: President Clinton announces strong new financial regulations and a more progressive tax code than under the other President Clinton and President Gore

September 3, 2005: William Rehnquist dies

September 6, 2005: President Clinton nominates Sonia Sotomayor as William Rehnquist's replacement

October 23, 2005: Sonia Sotomayor confirmed

December 22, 2005: Saddam Hussein assassinated by an angry citizen, Qusay Hussein takes his place (Uday and Qusay were not killed in 2003 by US forces because President Gore did not intervene in the Middle East at all). The right wants President Clinton to intervene and take out the Husseins while they're weak, while the center, left, and the American public want Clinton to continue with limited engagements while not invading Iraq nor doing nothing. Clinton sides with public opinion

January 31, 2006: Sandra Day O'Connor retires

February 2, 2006: President Clinton nominates Elena Kagan as O'Connor's replacement

March 19th, 2006: Elena Kagan confirmed

April 2006: Hillarycare passes the Democratic House

May 2006: Hillarycare passes the Democratic Senate, goes into effect January 1, 2007

November 2006: Democrats lose seats in both houses of Congress but maintain a majority in both (53-47 in the Senate, 236-199 in the House)

January 1, 2007: Hillarycare goes into effect, millions sign up

May 2007: Hillary Clinton announces her re-election campaign

September 2007: A ton of candidates announce in the Republican field (John McCain, Condoleezza Rice, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback, Newt Gingrich, Bill Frist, and Jeb Bush)

October 2007: Vice President Dean is dissatisfied with the job of VP and announces he will not run for re-election with President Clinton.

November 1, 2007: President Clinton has an approval rate of 56%, and while there was some talk of a potential challenge from Senator Barack Obama, he has decided against it, meaning that President Clinton will run unopposed for renomination. Senator Obama and Governor Kathleen Sebelius are rumored to be at the top of the list of potential running mates

January 1, 2008: Hillarycare insures 5.8 million people who did not have insurance before; much of this is Medicaid expansion

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After Super Tuesday, Republican Party Fractured

After Super Tuesday, President Clinton secured her nomination, while the Republican party is in pieces and is potentially headed for a contested convention. 7 candidates have a serious shot at the nomination; Condoleezza Rice is the frontrunner with 338 delegates, Jeb Bush is not far behind at 203 (and is actually leading the popular vote), Newt Gingrich and John McCain are hovering around 180, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani are around 120, and Mitt Romney is in a distant 7th place with 80 delegates. Fred Thompson won Tennessee and has 61 delegates, but is not expected to win any more states, and all other candidates have less than 5 delegates and are expected to start dropping out soon.

Meanwhile, President Clinton has consistently maintained a 4-6 point lead over the Republican frontrunner in the general election.

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Republican Convention Will Definitely Be Contested

Rudy Giuliani has won the Ohio primary; as of March 4th, it is now mathematically impossible for any single Republican candidate to win a majority of the delegates on the first ballot.

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President Clinton Slips in National Polls

President Hillary Clinton has slipped in polls recently due to a minor economic slump. Her 4.5ish% lead a week ago has narrowed to 2.1%, and the Electoral College is a tossup for the first time in the campaign.

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Conventions

President Hillary Clinton is officially nominated and chooses Senator Barack Obama as her new running mate.

The Republican convention is contested.

First Round:

Rice: 536

McCain: 402

Bush: 283

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Thompson: 141

Hunter: 9

Bill Frist: 9

Sam Brownback: 6

Ron Paul: 2

Tancredo: 0

Round 2: Tancredo, Paul Eliminated; Paul Endorses Brownback

Rice: 536

McCain: 402

Bush: 283

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Thompson: 141

Hunter: 9

Bill Frist: 9

Sam Brownback: 8

Round 3: Brownback Eliminated, Endorses Thompson

Rice: 536

McCain: 402

Bush: 283

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Thompson: 149

Hunter: 9

Bill Frist: 9

Round 4: Frist Eliminated, Endorses Thompson

Rice: 536

McCain: 402

Bush: 283

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Thompson: 158

Hunter: 9

Round 5: Hunter Eliminated, Endorses Thompson

Rice: 536

McCain: 402

Bush: 283

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Thompson: 167

Round 6: Thompson Eliminated, Endorses Bush

Rice: 536

Bush: 450

McCain: 402

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Romney: 170

Round 7: Romney Eliminated, Endorses McCain

McCain: 572

Rice: 536

Bush: 450

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Gingrich: 260

Round 8: Gingrich Eliminated, Endorses Bush

Bush: 710

McCain: 572

Rice: 536

Huckabee: 282

Giuliani: 280

Round 9: Giuliani Eliminated, Endorses McCain

McCain: 852

Bush: 710

Rice: 536

Huckabee: 282

Round 10: Huckabee Eliminated, Endorses Bush

Bush: 992

McCain: 852

Rice: 536

Round 11: Rice Eliminated, Endorses Bush

Bush: 1528

McCain: 852

Republican Nominees:

President: Jeb Bush

Vice President: Charlie Crist

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PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON RE-ELECTED BY SLIM MARGIN

President Hillary Clinton defeated Florida Governors Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist, being re-elected as the 44th President of the United States. Her running mate, Vice-President-elect Barack Obama, will become the first African American Vice President when the two are inaugurated in January.

AZ, NV, NC, MI, PA, and MO were all decided by less than 2 points. Oddly, NH was a 16.2 point landslide for Bush/Crist. As there were two Florida Governors on the Republican ticket, they won the state by a convincing 10 points, even though it was trending Clinton before the RNC chose its candidates.

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